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SvartHammer28
05-10-2006, 11:25 AM
I play a lot (A LOT) on Jetset and I cant win with AA, KK, trips (most of the times) no matter how I play the hand... Everday I build and build just to see my whole stack disseapear on a badbeat... It seems like JetSet gives with one hand (Rakeback) and takes back with the other hand (actionflops/Shills)..

My Last hand on JetSet (Not the worst badbeat by far, but one of the most common) I am ZeldAA:

>>>>>>>>>> Hand 4 <<<<<<<<<<

Game # 109362431: Texas Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) 05/10/2006 02:33:56
Table "Fratessa Dr" (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button

Seat 2: billjr456 ($33.35)
Seat 3: BrandonCole ($18.65)
Seat 4: kbvital ($6.40)
Seat 5: ZeldAA ($18.50) [button]
Seat 6: aloha ($76.92)
aloha: posts small blind $0.25
billjr456: posts big blind $0.50

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to ZeldAA [Ah Ad]
aloha: says "aloha: Nice Hand!"
BrandonCole: folds
kbvital: raises $0.50 to $1
BrandonCole: says "BrandonCole: lol"
billjr456: says "billjr456: ty"
ZeldAA: raises $1.50 to $2.50
aloha: folds
billjr456: calls $2
kbvital: raises $3.90 to $6.40 and is all-in
ZeldAA: raises $5.90 to $12.30
billjr456: calls $9.80

>>> FLOP <<< [6s 7s 6h]
billjr456: checks
ZeldAA: bets $6.20 and is all-in
billjr456: calls $6.20

>>> TURN <<< [6s 7s 6h] [3c]

>>> RIVER <<< [6s 7s 6h 3c] [5d]

>>> SHOWDOWN <<<
ZeldAA: shows [Ah Ad] (two pairs, Aces and Sixes)
billjr456: shows [6d 5c] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
kbvital: shows [Js Jc] (two pairs, Jacks and Sixes)
billjr456: collects $23.15 from the side pot
billjr456: collects $18.50 from the main pot
kbvital leaves the table with $0
ZeldAA sits out

>>> SUMMARY <<<
Total pot $43.65.
Main pot $18.50.
Side pot $23.15.
Rake $2

Board: [6s 7s 6h 3c 5d]
Seat 2: billjr456 (big blind) showed [6d 5c] and won ($41.65) with a full
house, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 3: BrandonCole folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kbvital showed [Js Jc] and lost with two pairs, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 5: ZeldAA (button) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with two pairs, Aces and
Sixes
Seat 6: aloha (small blind) folded before the flop

It seems like the only reason why billjr456 calls preflop is that he knows that he will win that pot no matter what.... :angry:

I think Ill go back to play regular poker :(

ZeldAA

trbpoker
05-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Tough beat

I know your going to hate me saying this BUT:

Too tough to judge anything by 1 hand (I know you probably have more)

In my opinion, if you are beating other sites and can't seem to beat JetSet, your hand sample may not be big enough. I personally like to play 25,000-50,000 hands on a site before I decide anything.

I have played JetSet, didn't notice anything "abnormal", I don't play there too much because last time I checked it was mostly NL games instead of limit.

Sorry - meant to say 10,000-25,000 hands

SvartHammer28
05-10-2006, 04:25 PM
Have played about 75 000 hands on JetSet and everyday my AA gets beaten 6-8 of 10 times by rag.. No matter how hard I play my trips they get beaten by str8s and flushes. Just a min. ago I raised (hard) preflop with QQ, flop QT3 and I lost against AT. Dont have to say that I never hit on 15 outs after flop, but other players hits and hits and hits...

So frustrating :( By the way I am a thight player, dont play junkcards :-)

trbpoker
05-10-2006, 05:49 PM
75,000 hands is alot of hands !!!

How do you find you are doing on other sites after 75,000 hands ???

Up/down ???

SvartHammer28
05-10-2006, 06:52 PM
Up and down, but my favourite was the Primanetwork, did well there with only 35% rakeback, better than JetSet.. Like sites with not so many scandinavians, prefer 2 play against brits.. :-)

SvartHammer28
05-11-2006, 02:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Hand 6 <<<<<<<<<<

Game # 109514934: Texas Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1) 05/11/2006 04:28:50
Table "Talbert St" (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button

Seat 3: ZeldAA ($81.25) [button]
Seat 4: 2xtreemz ($76.55)
ZeldAA: posts small blind $0.50
2xtreemz: posts big blind $1

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to ZeldAA [As Ah]
EDVIS brings $20 to the table
ZeldAA: calls $0.50
2xtreemz: checks

>>> FLOP <<< [4s 2c Kh]
2xtreemz: bets $2
ZeldAA: raises $4 to $6
2xtreemz: calls $4

>>> TURN <<< [4s 2c Kh] [9h]
2xtreemz: checks
ZeldAA: bets $13
2xtreemz: raises $13 to $26
ZeldAA: calls $13

>>> RIVER <<< [4s 2c Kh 9h] [8s]
2xtreemz: bets $20
ZeldAA: calls $20

>>> SHOWDOWN <<<
ZeldAA: mucks hand
2xtreemz: shows [9c 4h] (two pairs, Nines and Fours)
2xtreemz: collects $105 from the pot
EDVIS sits in

>>> SUMMARY <<<
Total pot $106.
Rake $1

Board: [4s 2c Kh 9h 8s]
Seat 3: ZeldAA (button) (small blind) mucked [As Ah] - a pair of Aces
Seat 4: 2xtreemz (big blind) showed [9c 4h] and won ($105) with two pairs,
Nines and Fours

trbpoker
05-12-2006, 02:00 PM
It happens - you should lose this hand about 1 in 8 times.

I wish it was 1 in a million - but its not - its 1 in 8

After the flop you go down to about 1 in 5

After the turn - it goes the other way - you can still win 1 in 5 times.

BUT IT HAPPENS

Curious to know how long you have been playing poker ???

Losing AA to 94 offsuit really doesnt faze me much heads up anymore - just part of the game

I am not really sure why this bothers you so much

You gave him a free look at the flop and he won (which he will about 12% of the time)

But if you really think its the site your playing on - try a new one - hopefully that will work for you.

Otherworld
05-13-2006, 09:11 PM
just started playing at jetset (2/4 limit), and yes, every time ive had AA or KK theyve been cracked. one time by a legitimate hand (44, she flopped her set), but every other time its been 2 pair --like 8-4 os.

SvartHammer28
05-14-2006, 02:16 PM
I know that I did not play that last hand well, tried to trap him but got trapped. :) So that hand dont bother me so much, its all the other AA-KK-set hands that I play well but still loose with...

imported_dreilly
07-19-2006, 05:42 AM
just started playing at jetset (2/4 limit), and yes, every time ive had AA or KK theyve been cracked. one time by a legitimate hand (44, she flopped her set), but every other time its been 2 pair --like 8-4 os.
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dont even get me started on jetset bad beats. one winning session then they killed my $400 bankroll in one night by suckouts. Im really pissed right now.

One guy even called my $40 raise with trips TWICE to the river where he hit his miracle flush.

Had KK beat 4 times by Aces!

Also had those same aces cracked twice by 6 10 and 2 6

The worst thing is that was only three hours worth of play

Most Rigged Site Ive Ever Played At.

Jotun665
07-19-2006, 06:18 AM
dont even get me started on jetset bad beats. one winning session then they killed my $400 bankroll in one night by suckouts. Im really pissed right now.

One guy even called my $40 raise with trips TWICE to the river where he hit his miracle flush.

Had KK beat 4 times by Aces!

Also had those same aces cracked twice by 6 10 and 2 6

The worst thing is that was only three hours worth of play

Most Rigged Site Ive Ever Played At.
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Hahahaha, you're raising 10% of your bankroll and are shocked that you busted? Nice.

Erwinius
07-19-2006, 07:48 AM
dont even get me started on jetset bad beats. one winning session then they killed my $400 bankroll in one night by suckouts. Im really pissed right now.

One guy even called my $40 raise with trips TWICE to the river where he hit his miracle flush.

Had KK beat 4 times by Aces!

Also had those same aces cracked twice by 6 10 and 2 6

The worst thing is that was only three hours worth of play

Most Rigged Site Ive Ever Played At.
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I have to agree. I played about 5500 hands there, and now I just play a few tourneys there.

I saw a player who had 5 times AA in 20 hands.

My Aces got cracked more than 62% of the time.

I play around 50 000 hands/month online and there is no site where I am behind, except this one.

When I had a good session, a new player arrived and played like double dummy(when I bluffed he called,

when I had a good hand he folded.

No way, that I waste any more Dollars there playing Ringgames (Sorry Chip and Noah)